Accumulated Comments from around Fixing Shadows

General Comments

Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:19:12 -0400

Wonderful find! Thanks JDS, for this link (from the Yahoo PhotoHistory Group). Also liked your comments re Ch. Dodson. However, I found some glitches in the web pages-the individual pictures in the Conn. album grouping do not enlarge as indicated; the link to Secrets of the Dark Chamber is now dead; the great shot of the 1906 Baker does not provide detail enlargements as indicated (I wanted to examine the guy on the scaffolding against the wall-???). (Glitches were fixed. Thanks for the alert. jds 0 I also have some great shots by Mr. Anon from some old negs given by a relative (but non-family: two farmers standing on their heads by a hay stack!?; an outdoor shot of a baby in coffin on a chair w/ horse & buggy in the distance, etc. When I get them digitized and available, would love to share. Great web site!

Submitted by: Bruce T. Erickson (

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:30:26 -0500

 I'm very happy I "bumped" into your site and find it VERY well done and maybe the best visual anthropolgy site I have visited! I am a photographer and am working on a visual ethnology here in Thoreau New Mexico. I would very much like to post my work on YOUR site. How might that be arranged? I will definitely be passing your name around to my fellow Anthropologists and photographers! Thanks for being there! Robert

Submitted by: Robert Brochey (

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:54:31 -0500

I just loved this website.
It was a great find for me, a photo lover.

From: Dayse Alves <>

Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:17:49 -0500

 found you looking for a london independent news paper  what a delight i met jack welpot many years ago in s.f. calif.i  remember some of the work on your site    it has really rekindled my interest in photography something i love dearly but abandoned for mixed media a long time ago       your site has ignited a spark        thank you and jack

From: david benedict --- <>

Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:07:22 -0500

dear sir-i'm indebted to you for the construction of this site as its one of the few places i've been able to find  work by jack welpott-along-whos work (along with emmet gowin)i admire a great deal-while exploring the rest of the site i noticed your admiration for a project by an ex student tracing her grandmothers life and i thought i'd mention the english photographer jo spence-sadly now dead-but whose work often dealt with the family-text combined with snap-shots-i'm unpacking at the moment so i am unable-at this time able to provide you with a correct reference to her published works-if you are interested i will soon be in a position to send such infomation-anyway-it just crossed my mind-i only wanted to say that i enjoy visiting the site and look forward to new additions!

Submitted by: sean (

Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 20:13:02 -0500

 Even at a cursory viewing an interesting site. I hope to have more historical info. and pics.
All the best

Submitted by: niyatee (

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:12:10 -0500

Enjoyed your site and will return often.  I also have a found photo page that you may wish to link with:

I'll add a link to your's.

many thanks,


Submitted by: Alan Zinn (

Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:46:19 -0400

User comments for the Tintypes site


I was pleased to find your website.  I too collect early photographs and I have
a particular fondness for tintypes.  I have a small site you might like to check out:

From: Marcel Safier --- <>

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:00:51 -0400

I enjoy looking at old, old photos, so enjoy your site. Just thought I'd let you know that I tried to get to the tintypes and I kept getting server error. :-( Hope I can see them in the future! Thanks.

Submitted by: Bea (

Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:26:12 -0400

My name is Sarah and I am 16 years old. I'm wanting to
congratulate the fine work I've been viewing throughout
your artistic sight. Photography is a passion of mine
and I get great inspiration from other artists. You have
definately inspired myself and I'm sure Fixing Shadows
does the same for others. Keep up the extraordinary
time and effort - it is all greatly appreciated.  Bye

Submitted by: Sarah (

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:38:52 -0400

Beautiful work! I'm recommending that my Anthropology and
Photography class take a look at your site!

From: Catherine Sylstra <>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:43:45 -0500

This is a great site!  Very interesting.  I have appreciated found photographs for a
couple of years;  for the  finder they offer a window into an unknown world,
forcing us to speculate about what was happening.  This seems to me to be the
essence of photography.

 Anyway, thanks. Maybe one day I will take a picture I can submit.

student of Anthropology
U. of Louisville

From: Jesse Lebus --- <>

Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:30:23 -0500

 This is my first time to the sight. It was suggested to me by one of my professors
 since I am very interested in the present (and future) state of still photographs
 in anthropology.  I am looking forward to the growth of the enthnophotography
 section.  This area can produce much varies beautiful and interesting work.  It
 can also be a great area for heated discussions on what anthropologists should/could
 photograph and how (aesthetics, technical elements).  I am looking foreward to the
 near future of the use of photography in visual anthropology.

From: Sonya de Laat --- <>

Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:50:35 -0500


 Hi lovely it is to look at those  . I  enjoy  it and  go often to  look at them  .
very nice

Rita bourque

Submitted by: ritabouque (

Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:25:06 -0400

Just checked your site out from a link in photoHistoryList, looks favorite Eugene Smith item is the sign on his darkroom door, "No anticipation allowed", I've made a similar sign for my darkroom and it's proved its worth.

From: Bruce Erickson --- <>

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:18:16 -0700

Tullio, Tanya & David Sapir,  Thanks for your posts and hope that you'll
speak up more on the list.  David, Thanks for the link, the Fixing Shadows
is an excellent site.  Will study it more.  Best Regards, Ernst-Ulrich Schafer

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:52:53 -0400

I enjoy this site so much; it's in my favorites. I unwind with Francis Cooper. Thanks.

Submitted by: Sandi Smith ( 

Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:12:52 -0400

A beautifully organized website, with content that's quite impressive. Perhaps you'd be interested in visiting my website (still very much under construction) and seeing some of the work I've been involved with.

Submitted by: Gerald Panter ( 

Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 20:55:55 -0800

Hello Mr.Sapir. I have enjoyed your website very much and have bookmarked it, waiting to see what other wonderful images you come up with. I am particularly interested in the historical and found photos section as that is where my interest lies. I collect and print from old negatives of all kinds and have begun to put them on my webpage to be viewed at:

I'm fairly new to computers and will be experimenting and changing it around as time permits. These images are highlights of some of the collections I've picked up over the years at various antique shows, flea markets, and estate sales over the years and I would love to share a few of them with your viewers. Let me know, and keep up the good work. Thanks, John

Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:56:59 -0500

Your web page has be great in helping me study for a final exam in the History of Photography. Thanks, Rebecca Mitsch the University of Notre Dame

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:02:11 -0400


It was a great surprise to encounter your web site (following a search for David Plowden--one of America's treasures.

Wonderful, fast web site. I'll be reviewing it in a Macintosh user group newsletter, and recommending it to my photo friends.

From: Roger C. Parker 

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:47:38 -0700

In response to a query about EW's: The world is full of sloppy bohemians and their work betrays them. jds

Edward Weston was one of America's most famous and beloved modernist photographers. He is associated with the California formalist group that included Ansel Adams. He is best known for his peppers, shells, nudes, sand dunes and toward the end of his life Cats. He shot many photos of Point Lobos near Monterey CA where today you will find the Edward Weston beach.

How wonderful - I live 60 miles from Monterey...

If you like that pithy remark I am sure you would enjoy reading through the "Day Books of Edward Weston" edited in two volumes by Nancy Newhall. I believe they have been reprinted.

Thank you...

I hope this helps

It sure does. And, you have a marvelous site. What an eye-popper..

Best regards, W. David Schwaderer

Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:11:51 -0500

I love this site! I am a graphic designer/illustrater and sometimes photographer. I use many of my ancestral photographs in my designs as well as found photos. I am fascinated by ethnographic, historical, and geneaological uses of photography. I will return when I am not out searching for an image of accupuncture needles.

From: Ann 

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:09:16 -0500

I have neither the knowledge, nor the time, but Re: date for Maude photograph: of interest might be the shoes--they appear to tie but construction seems a bit odd; newspaper, note overall size and wide bottom border--this might be a hint, obviously lead type; hat; blouse--note sleeves seem to be buttoned, but can't tell detail; skirt--what is the seam/patch; hard to tell, but what race is she--features may give clue to where she's from and from that where and when she is in photo; lastly, the outdoor shot almost seems to be in a studio--what do you think? Maybe these ideas will put someone on the right track. you will find Maude Over is the Woods on the found photo page. jds

From: Dave Clark 

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:23:18 -0500

Thanks for the lovely Lewis Carroll page! I'm a second grade teacher and we just finished AIW on Friday. My kids were wondering what Alice looked like and the Carroll biography is out at the library. They'll be happy to see what I found! -rr

From: Rebekah Rogers 

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:06:56 -0400

Re: found photos on Fixing Shadows site

What a wonderful selection of images! I'm especially taken with the ice skating shot and the one of the 2 trains. In fact, I would be interested in purchasing either or both of these. Would you please let me know if you'd be interested in selling them?

Thank you.

From: James Nocito 

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:51:22 -0400

Always enjoy your site. Thanks

From: Ray 

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:43:27 -0400

What beautiful work... I shoot often in Mexico barrios, but my work doesn't compare with yours! Thanks for sharing.

From: Joan Maricle 

Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 12:36:08 -0700

Loved your photograph in honor of L'Adventura, very subtle. (I was checking your web site).

John Bishop

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:05:41 -0400

Dear Mr. Sapir,

I have just visited your website for the first time and was suprised and pleased to see the first image ("Pleasures of Daguerreotyping Rural Scenes") on the Found Images section. For an exhibit I am currently mounting at the Princeton University Archives I am using a student scrapbook from the 1850s into which the student pasted this same cartoon. I would be very interested to know the original location of this cartoon (or the one you know of, since it may have appeared several places).

Is this your personal page, or a page authored by a group of individuals? So far I've enjoyed it very much.

Melissa Johnson 

Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:16:15 -0400

I have many old photographs I took half a century ago and some in between with a few inherited from the early 1900s. When I die they will be thrown away. If any are of interest I would like to find a home for them for those who come after us.

Ref: Maude over in the woods. A friend who is somewhat expert in old fashions and antiques tells me:

The shirt and skirt are somewhere shortly after 1900; probably about 1905.

However, the shoes do not seem to fit that time frame. Look much later. Notice the soles of the shoes.

Jack P. Gibson

1006 Pine Ridge Dr

Rockingham, NC 28379


PS: Take a ride over the mountain and check out the historical section of the Waynesboro, VA public library.

Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 21:56:36 -0400

Hello J. David- excellent site with good images and variety- surfed upon it while looking for well designed locations to send some images- would you be interested in seeing some material for your ethno page? Let me know and thanks for creating Fixing Shadows! Keep fixing shadows.....

From: tim --- 

Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 09:29:23 -0400

I nearly fainted when I saw the words, "straight photography" on your page! How fine, indeed. Your site is excellent...and as a twenty year 'veteran' of straight photograph in a postmodern mileau, I am so relieved to find community on the web. An animal without her herd, is a dying animal... When Szarkowski wrote, "The world is an artist of incomparable inventiveness", he codified what had already been made clear by Winogrand, Frank, Arbus, et al in their photographs...a respect for the subject, and a respect for the medium.. I could go on..."It's like opening a tiny door, once you accept the medium for what it is, the WHOLE WORLD is open to you..." (William Maguire) How limiting is THAT! I have just begun posting my work on the web (in the last three days!), learning html...but there is something to see...honest... this is not spam... thanks for a great site!!! and the boost I needed today!

Submitted by: (Priscilla Forthman)

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:34:48 -0500

For all manner of reasons I think your site is quite delightful (OK, I'll come clean, I know some of the photographers whose works you are showing). It seems to me to be a quite calm outpost in an otherwise mad world. Thank you for the effort.

Oh, and I'm going to write about in the New Zealand Journal of Photography. I'll email you a copy of my text.

Submitted by: (Peter Turner) 

Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:24:29 -0500

Exelente pagina Felicitaciones Tengo interes en encontrar fotografias de chile , pais sud americano gracias.

Submitted by: (JOSE MORENO F.) 

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 04:30:51 -0500 from the Tintype page

hi! I would like to use one of your images in an essay. I am currently studying for a city and guilds in photography and am compiling a piece on early photography. The use of the image would be for purely study purposes.

Could you possibly give me a little more info on image pose5

Submitted by: (Andy Rumsey)

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:40:17 -0500

Hello J. David Sapir,

I came upon Fixing Shadows via Afterimage's website. It was a real treat, and especially so, to know that others revere "straight" photography. Well, maybe I'm not so straight since I am a long time (since 1972) pinhole photographer. I would like to invite you to my site and it's links to other sites of my work. Right now,'til March 7th, 55 of my pinhole photos are at the Longwood Center for the Visual Arts in Farmville, Va. under the titles "Remembering the Civil War" and "Southland"(ruins and graves). Also "Civil War Medcine", featuring blowups of vintage Civil War photos of M. Brady and company , artifacts, and a surgical tent set-up, is on view. I give a gallery talk on Thursday the 26th at 1:30. Georgia Coopersmith, the Director of LVAC, has done a super job as the curator of the exhibitions. Thought you might be interested. History and Photography are a viable combo for this occasion. Thanks for letting me do a bit of self promotion. If you think my work is appropriate, please link my page to your page and, if you wish, I'll link yours to mine.

Willie Anne Wright


Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:42:21 -0500

I absolutely love Fixing Shadows!!! It is the kind of website that brings a person back again and again--like a wonderful coffeetable book. I only wish that I had a computer/modem that was faster so that I could get around the page faster, with greater ease.

Submitted by: (Joan Link) 

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:07:21 -0500

GREAT Home Page!!! As a Photography educator, I am pleased that there is such a web page for my students to accesss. Please keep up the good work, and thanks for the opportunity to visit.

Submitted by: (John Sullivan)

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:31:40 -0500 (EST)

Hi -- just found your site haphazardly and look forward to taking a closer look!

I am writing b/c I need to get into contact with J. David Sapir. I am working on a PBS doc and have received a photo print from Utah of Utah that is credited to another Sapir. We want to use this picture (deserted wiekiup at White Rocks, 909) in our film, and though I believe it is the public domain, I would like to check with you about permissions to use. Please contact me as soon as possible, as we are now trying to clear everything with the project before turning it in to the WGBH Educational Foundation in a few weeks. My number is 213-460-6486 and my name is Helen Scheer

Submitted by: (Helen Scheer) 

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:47:45 -0400

L'Aventura is a nice shot. It presented a very pleasing visual impression as it was downloading.

Submitted by: (Michael Adams) 

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:55:18 -0400 (EDT)

Well, you are the first person to comment on this shot. I took it in 1971 as an ectachrome slide. It sat in a box and when I came to have it printed it was in horrible condition. So I scanned it at 300 dpi and started cleaning it up in PhotoShop. I got a VERY nice hard copy via Kodak's new digital gizmo - much better than I expected. The 72 dpi version that I posted on fixing shadows (the one you saw) could be a lot better, it lacks important detail. Your note reminds me that I should try to fix it. Thanks for your interest and thanks for your interest in the site. I'll take a look at your web site. Unfortunately, Paul Baldasere is not connected to the web. Hopefully Peter Marshall who is also in London will forward your comment to him.

J. David Sapir 

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:10:56 -0400

It's a wonderful site....I like the "instant ancestors" as we call them (found photos of people you don't know). Our family, here in Northern Michigan, has foumd and donated to the Western Michigan University Archives, hundreds of letters and photos collected by my Grandfather.

Submitted by: (Katherine Lambert)

Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:09:04 -0400

I love your website! It's great to see straight photography. I specialize in black and white documentary photography. Please check out my website at:

Thank you,

Submitted by: (Tina Manley)

Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 15:38:17 -0700

Thank you. Fixing Shadows is an attractive web site. There doesn't seem to be much straight photography coming out of the fine art schools today. The people at the university where I received a BFA in 1994 were artists who used photography, rather than photographers.

Herman Krieger 

Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:39:33 -0400

enjoyed visiting the site, and was impressed by the picture quality. once viewing the photos though it was difficult to navigate back to the home page or top page of artist.

look forward to returning soon.

Submitted by: (Daniel Plowden) 

Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:50:02 -0400

Comments about the Tintypes page

Interesting gallery! I have been searching for Lippmann process color photos, but they seem lost in history...any ideas?

Submitted by: (Jeffrey ) 

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:18:05 -0500

Comments about the Tintypes page

Hello-have enjoyed your page immensely. Am looking for a source where I can have some tintypes of my grandmother and great-uncle touched up....they were in a basement trunk until last year, and have a few spots ??? on them-am afraid to use someone local until getting some type of a reference....I am in Lynchburg, Va......

I also have one of them with their caregiver in 1896 that is in perfect condition, though small. Thanks for your help. Sue Jenkins

Submitted by: (Sue Jenkins) 

Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:20:58 -0500

Comments on the Tintype page

Thanks for the historical info. I've been scavenging for tintypes & old photos for a couple of years now, and was curious about the years involved. I've got a whole album in which the family members are labeled. I've tracked them down to a town in NY and plan to go to its graveyard & find their birth & death dates. My friends think it's weird. I think it'll make them seem more human. Just got two particularly cool photos: a tintype of a man in a bathing suit & a turn of century card with a child praying next to her large dog, who's also in prayer position. ta ta - dominique

Submitted by: (dominique) 

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:30:57 -0500

Came by your page and was impressed with both the format and the work shown there, I am the Arts Editor for Webscout the Autralian Search Engine at Would like to feature your site in this month's submissions but need to know whom to contact. Also would love to link with my page (personal request) at

Please respond your interest as to either proposal, they are divisible, of course.

Thanks in advance, Phil Jaeger

Submitted by: (Phillip Jaeger) 

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:46:10 -0500

great tintypes!! thank you very much for putting it on the web. It has helped me a lot in my ARt History class project of identifying a few old photos.

Submitted by: (sudeep rao) 

Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 00:57:21 -0800

Thank you.

I spent quite a lot of time in the Lewis Carroll area. The photographs of little Alice have haunted me for years. I wanted to see if my Mind's Eye remembered accurately. It did!

I'm a writer. While working on a piece for the Antique Trader Weekly about the classic print - Cupid Awake/Cupid Asleep by M. B. Parkinson, flashes of Carroll's Alice photographs kept appearing in my brain. Could his earlier shots has been instrumental in the later shots of Josephine Anderson, Parkinson's model?

I've seen several other shots of usually young girl's posed like this picture. All seem especially volumptuous or fragile or "knowing" 

the same look I see in Alice's eyes. One can peer into her soul. I don't especially like what I see there.

Have you had the same experience?

Also, do you have any information on Parkinson. I am totally unsuccessful in finding any information about the person (see, I don't even know if it's a she or a he! :)

I shall anticipate your reply. Thanks for your time and for any assistance you can give me.

Joan Bramsch 

Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:16:35 -0500

I'm in Advanced Photography at tom C. Clark H.S. in San Antonio, TX and the photographs that I've seen are really amazing. To the photographers, kudos to you.

Submitted by: (Kelly J. Luinstra) 

Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:57:20 -0500

I have watched your works on the web. It's cool !! Thank you.

Submitted by: (Tetsuya Shimoyama) 

Date: 19 Dec 96 15:02 EST

Dear author, I really enjoyed looking at your pages, especially the Lewis Carroll photos. It's a wonderful site that I had not expected on the Web. Your setup of the pages is simple and tasteful and the background colours are very convenient. These simple photos of Alice Liddell touch me every time I see them. Your reproductions or scannings are perfect! I compliment you to this website and will certainly look through all the other pages, also the literary ones.

I also wonder how quickly the photos load on the screen. Do you use a special technique for this sake or is your server a very powerful one?

I wish you Merry Christmas and all the best! Sincerely, Dr.P.F. Walter 

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:01:29 -0500

I like the interactive page. A great deal of thought has gone into this section.

Submitted by: (Ilona Gebhard) 

Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:27:20 -0400

Congratulations! What a beautiful work! I'm truly amazed particularly with what you have done to the picture of the Baker automobile. Sorry if I'm overdoing my enthusiasm, but you've managed to use technology in a way I've always wanted but had no means to. I'll be a frequent visitor here.


Submitted by: (Ines Alfano) 

Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:10:21 -0500 (EST)

About Abby on the Found Photo page:

"The invention of the mirror is slightly more important than the discovery of molasses," thought A to hereself. She listened to the pinecones falling in the yard outside and began to smile. The Civil War had been fought over bacon and now electric guitars were just around the corner.........

Submitted by: (max) 

Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:18:52 -0400

I was only sailing, then I found this wonderful site. I have no suggestions now, but I'll visit here and recommend to my friends. Speccially, I liked a lot Lewis Carrol page. Sorry for my poor english.

Submitted by: (Danielle) 

Date: Mon, 03 Jun 96 21:46:29 -700

Got a good laugh at the Gauguin gag (pretty alliterative, wasn't that!)! Just breezing through and will definitely earmark this one. I live in Morocco and teach English. But, really, I'm a photographer and videographer and Morocco has been on the Net since February 1996! I pay $70/month to be online. So, I'm goin to speed on my way. Ta Taaaaaaa........

From: michael schneblin 

Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:11:26 -0400

In brief: Wonderful.

So, more explicitly ... the parameters of "found" photographs???

What constitutes interesting? Do you have cut-offs dates? et cetera et cetera ...

Submitted by: (Glenn Court)

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:01:28

Your content is exemplary. I appreciate the work that has gone into putting this page together. However, your background colors, espeicially on page 1, need to be rethought.

Submitted by: (T.J. Coen) 

Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 19:38:13

From: Mike Kelly 

I live in Colorado, which is in the United States. I have been stimulated by Fixing Shadows for months. I reflect some prints in a lamp in my living room. Thank you. I shall keep returning.

Mike Kelly

Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 21:00:53

keep up the great work!

Submitted by: don't have one (Alison C. Richards) 

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:03:05

my name is mario perez this is the first time i have check out a web sight. i am a photographer here on the island of kauai. i am soon to get on the web. it seem very interesting.

Submitted by: (Mario Perez) 

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:35:45

You have a very enjoyable site - I'm putting a bookmark on it. Basically what I'm looking for is portrait photographs of old men. If you have suggestions I would appreciate any info! Thanks again for your site.

Submitted by: (Barbara) 

Hello, David!

This is VERY impressive. I haven't looked at everything---far from it. Congratulations.

I hope to get the Apaches interested in starting a page. I should talk with you and get some help.

Charlie Kaut

Submitted by: ( C. Kaut) 

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 03:44:17

I love it! How does the zoom feature work (where you click on a portion of the photo)? Are you taking uploads? I have a great series of photos from the 20's.

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 11:40:59

I enjoyed your photographs of Africa. And appreciate the well-designed looseness of the larger project. Thanks.

Submitted by: (David Andrews) 


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:40:32 -0500

Subject: SHADOWS

In september, at the tender age of 40, I began my adventure in the field of black and white photography. I started with a History of Photog. class and went crazy. I am hooked!

Now, for this winter quarter, I am taking my first darkroom 100. I am developing my own negatives, and making my own prints and finding the entire experience delightful.

I shall visit your site often and heed your advice. I am only now beginning to understand how they eyes can turn this color filled world into shades of gray, light and dark with each look through the view finder.

Thanks for an entertaining and informative page! Paula Benson 

Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:16:12 -0400

Congratulations! Nice pictures. Keep going :)

Submitted by: (Miguel Maio)

From: Jim Hughes 

Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 13:44:17 -0500

David: thought you'd like to see this.


--- Forwarded message -----

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:01:30 -0800

From: "Shane F. Iseminger" 

Subject: fixing shadows etc (long winded)

>I am using 'unmanipulated' to mean that what appears in the >final print is what was before the camera at the moment the >photograph was taken. In this regard Edw Weston's peppers are >unmanipulated, although he placed the peppers in the opening of >the drain pipe (I think that is where he put them).

it would help if we all spoke the same language. According to the Hypertext

Webster Interface ( - couldn't find a dictionary around the office):

ma.nip.u.late \m*-'nip-y*\ \\ \*r\ \-l*,\ vt [back-formation fr. manipulation] 1: to treat or operate with the hands or by mechanical means esp. with skill 2a: to manage or utilize skillfully 2b: to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means esp. to one's own advantage 3: to change by artful or unfair means so as to serve one's purpose : DOCTOR - aj

I couldn't find anything referring to digital imaging. How did "manipulation" come to mean "photoshopped" ? To treat or operate with the hands? Doesn't that vaguely sound similar to 'arranging' ?

>Manipulation to me comes in when operations beyond the usual >printing come into play. Removal of "noise" as they say in the >digital world.

'Usual printing' can include so much . . . I'm starting to feel like a broken record, but manipulation can happen before the film is even exposed.

>The birds are still lifes - obviously set ups. But Carol's >camera reports the exact arrangement.

Probably so. But it then does not fall under the "unmanipulated" category. There are enough politicians twisting words in this world . . .

>I find, overall, this to be a non discussion. Unmanipulated >photography means what I chose it to mean. As simple as that.

Sure, but when you choose your own meaning of words and then use them to communicate is where the problem lies. No pun intended. I can choose "photo" to mean "a small bird that lives on the beaches of new Zealand" but that doesn't exactly help my communication skills. When you say that a photograph is not manipulated when it has not been digitally altered, you insinuate that there is no other form of alteration.

>Carol is not moving pyramids around and claiming that the new >position is the real position.

If I remember right, National Geo did say, in some obscure, fine-print way,

that their imfamous cover was manipulated, Scitex style. What caused the uproar was that they did it in the first place.

Back to the topic . . . it's great that we recognize the dangers of moving pyramids in a scitex system, but people have been slower to realize the dangers of other incarnations of manipulation. A good carpenter never blames his tools.

Shane Iseminger 

Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:29:13

You have created quite a stir on nppa-l with your page and the use of the term, "unmanipulated images". Rather than speculate, I decided to go to the source and ask what YOU mean by that term? Is it objects photographed as found and not moved? The birds look placed in position. Or, is it meant to mean, "not altered in printing,"? This is a concept I have a hard time buying into. Maybe it's something else.

To a photojournalist, an unmnipulated image usually means one that was photograpphed as found without interfearence from the photographer. The purist would go so far as to insist on using only found light without the addition of strobe, reflectors, etc.

Submitted by: (Joe Messinger)

[unmanipulated was changed to straight as in "Triple Scotch Straight UP" (Fixing Shadows).]

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:57:28

Dear David,

this is the first time that I visit your home page and I liked the group which I found under 'Edward'. What a beautiful scene, what a spiritus loci. I would have liked to be in this place and with those people. That's the magic of photography, a flying carpet. Thanks for letting me visit your home page, but some time I would like to visit you in person and in the place were you live. Best wishes. Ivo

PS. If you want to reply please use the following address:

When we have installed our scanner I will want to send you some photographs from Hamar. Best wishes. Ivo

Submitted by: (Ivo Strecker) 

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:04:06

I really enjoyed your collection of daguerrotypes.

Submitted by: (Mike) 

Date 12 Dec 1995 17:29:01 +1000


From: James McArdle

Hi, Thank you for your great website "Fixing Shadows" to which I have directed many of our students via our bibliographies, particularly for a Third Year segment dealing with Family Photographs. I am interested in contributing my own work that deals with relationships via focal effects (in camera) and symbolic use of the background. Some examples are viewable at the URL below - please tell me if this is appropriate for your pages. Regards

James McArdle Lecturer in Photography

Dept. Art & Design

School of Arts Latrobe University Bendigo

P.O Box 199 Bendigo, Victoria, Australia 3550 

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:47:18

Three years ago, at a Kyoto temple sale, I bought a small, brown paper bag full of old photos dating from the Japanese invasion of Manchuria. Most of the photographs seem to be snapshots sent home by the soldiers; a few are portraits. Some had kanji on the back which, when translated, led me to believe that the snaps were indeed personal photos. The formats range from approximately 1/2"x 1" to 5"x7"; all are in black and white. If you'd be interested, I would love to share these photos. I can be reached at the University of Southern California at 213-740-0890 or by email I also spent a year leading safaris in East and Equatorial Africa and have some unusual photos from that experience.

Torrie Kirkham

Submitted by: (Torrie Vail Kirkham) 

Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:58:22 This is a photo site I put up as part of a computer class I am taking. It leads to a personal photojournalism portfolio.

I may fit in to your page.

Submitted by: (Don Gorzek) 

Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:27:38

i'm pleased to make your acquaintance. i'm compiling fine images into portfolios for presentation, from urban guerilla to fine landscape. these are images i've captured over a span of twenty years in or near puget sound. i've tried to get an answer on some way to present them as a fine collection: no one can agree. Do you know how the greats 

Ansel Adams, the Westons, Eisenstadt, DDDuncan, Cartier-Bresson 
presented their stuff for private collectors or museums? For example, was Adams' portfolio one dry mounted with an overmat and presented in a box? gratefully christopher petrich

fine monochrome silver gelatin puget sound landscapes from 4x5 via schneider optics on a Wisner box. also, urban guerilla type shots from 35 and very personal night shots.

Submitted by: (Christopher Petrich) 

Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:26:58

Fixing Shadows

Greetings from South Carolina. Enjoyed your web page and will return often to see what's new. One small correction for you - it is Abbeville not Abbeyville. Good luck with future donations.

Submitted by: (Beth Bilderback) 

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:53:19

Hi David,

Great looking page!

I just put up a page and would like to see if you would be interested in displaying my photos. Please see my gallery at: I will warn you that it is a commercial site that contains a gallery. Also would you like to link to my page? Thanks for any comments.

Submitted by: (Carl Lew) 

Nov 1995 15:40:48 -0500

I would possibly like to contribute to the the photo page. In addition I rerquest premission to add a link from my home page to your page. Some of my photos are on my page which you can check out.

thanks, Al. Sacco

Submitted by: (Al Sacco) 

David, I saw your notice for FIXING SHADOWS on the Viscom list and came to take a look. I liked the open structure of the site and the feeling that it really was being shaped by contributions that were being discovered as you went along with the project rather than having some fixed, strickly formal concept at the start. This I think is one of the great potentials of the Web. Cynthia Close DER Executive Director

David, DER has a WEB site which includes a rather extensive photo collection related to the films or taken by the filmmakers whose work we distribute. Some of it is archival/historical in nature. It may be accessed from our Homepage via the URL: The photo collection may be accessed directly via: We continue to work on our site and are in the process of creating links between the photos, the film synopsis, and biographies and news provided to us by the filmmakers who for the most part are anthropologists/archaeologists/documentarians If you feel this material would be of interest we would appreciate a link to your site. Thanks for the opportunity.

Submitted by: (Cynthia Close) 

Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:48:44

An ambitious undertaking and a fine start. I was impressed by the Vilna material.

Good luck. Best,


Submitted by: (Neal Ulevich) 

Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 08:48:06 -0700 (PDT)

From: Abbot Chambers 

Subject: Whole Internet Catalog

Congrats on maintaining such a great Web site! On Tuesday, GNN will be adding a link to Fixing Shadows to our online Whole Internet Catalog. While not a sure thing, you may see your access levels jump once we add the link. If the increased traffic is a problem, let us know and we'll remove the link or replace it with a mirror site.

Thanks! Abbot Chambers

Abbot Chambers Editor, Whole Internet Catalog Global Network Navigator (GNN) O'Reilly & Associates Sebastopol, CA 707.829.0515 ext.281

Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:57

David, I printed a copy of your home page and used it last week along with a selection of other Web Pages dealing with photography and/or museums as an overhead projection (not distributed) in a talk I gave at a NYSCA conference on automation in Museums. Aside from being in Saratoga Springs which is nice, the whole affair was disappointingly mundane - the usual pissing and moaning about 'no money'. I was last on the program doing 'Internet & Museums' - which, indeed, appears to be the future, rather than the present, for most of this group. Only one among the attendees has a Web Page (

Yours is among the more interesting to me precisely be- cause of its implied variety - it doesn't give the sense which many do of being totally nailed down (of all the things students fail to learn, why is it that the 6th grade (for me) introduction to outlining reappears years - a generation - later in such rigid/predictable structures.

Andy Eskind

George Eastman House

Submitted by: (Andrew Eskind)